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Caleb Walker's avatar

Great post, I was deployed with the Tank Sqn a bit in 2008 as their FOO. We used to do the key leader engagement where we would use the mine clearing tank to get to the KLE. The OC would ask what we could do to help and the elder would be like - you could not rip through my fields and wadis and ruin our farms....

Second and third order effects.

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Alastair Luft's avatar

100%, and that idea of second and third order effects comes up in later chapters.

I was deployed in the first half of '08 and one of my most distinct memories was listening on the radio in Jan (I think) as the Tank Sqn made its way down the dried out Arghandhab exactly to avoid things like fields and wadis and then got hit with multiple IEDs. Very sobering.

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Evan Doiron's avatar

With youth growing up in an all-digital age with so much information and disinformation at their fingertips it’s hard to know fact from fiction.

With the Ukraine war ongoing and Psyops and infowar in full swing from all sides it’s hard to understand the real truth on the ground.

If parents can’t guide children by sharing bad news and helping build resiliency it will lead to much more difficult problems for them when they need to be independent and face their own challenges in life as they get older.

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Alastair Luft's avatar

These are great points and ground truth is hard enough to establish in the best circumstances even without active efforts to obscure actual events. If I'm not mistaken, Pete Blaber gets into this in his book, 'The Mission, The Men, and Me,' mentioning how those closest to the environment and the problem are generally more likely to have the most relevant knowledge.

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Evan Doiron's avatar

I’ll have to check that book out, thanks!

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